Venus Freeze Anti Cellulite Treatment

27 May

I decided not to publish the post I originally wrote for today.  I’ll explain why at our next meeting of Cellulite Support.  In its place, I wanted to send out this quick Request For Information.

A few weeks ago, I received this comment/question from a CI reader:

What about new cellulite removal toronto treatment called Venus Freeze? how effective is this? I hear people saying this is way better than velashape but I’m not so confident in what people just say…..I need to know an opinion from someone that actually tried it.

I’m accustomed to receiving requests like this from CI readers who are curious about all kinds of anti cellulite treatments, from pills and creams like Celluscience and Procellix to treatments, both natural and not-so-muchHas anyone out there tried the Venus Freeze Anti Cellulite treatment?

Tracking Down Testimonials for Anti Cellulite Reviews

Being the ever-diligent cellulite investigator that I am (or that I try to be), I dutifully set out to find someone who tried Venus Freeze and could provide an honest review. I had never heard of the treatment before, but the reader left a link to a Toronto-based clinic that offers the procedure.

I hit the internet in search of a real woman who could tell us about her experience with Venus Freeze. After reading this page of testimonials, I even tracked down one of the patients on Facebook and asked if she would mind answering a few questions for those of us who are curious about the treatment. I did not hear back from her.

A Real Testimonial of Venus Freeze Anti Cellulite Treatment

Lucky for me, a fellow cellulite sleuth already investigated this treatment and she was kind enough to share the details of her experience with us here at CI (thanks, Sid!).  Here’s what she had to say about the Venus Freeze anti cellulite treatment:

I’m in Toronto and I’ve tried it – but at a different medspa than the one you’ve linked to. I had 3 – 30 minute sessions and noticed no difference in cellulite, though my skin may be a bit firmer. Regarding the Venus Freeze they say that if you’ll notice a difference for cellulite it will be apparent after 3 sessions, so for me this is a no-go. The only thing that has ever gotten rid of my cellulite has been exercise and proper diet.

At the medspa I went to the vast majority of clients were using this machine for their tummies (and apparently in that area almost everyone gets results). Despite the impressive cellulite reduction photos the company puts out I got the impression that most people actually using it for cellulite were getting the same results I did. If anyone did want to try this – or any of the other tightening treatments that are out there I would suggest checking out the group buying coupon sites for your area – there are sometimes great deals for this type of thing.

Of course, there’s that familiar disclaimer that she didn’t go for enough treatments.  It’s always a challenge to get around that one.  Has anyone else tried Venus Freeze? Please add your comments below.

A Cellulite Investigator Update

Thanks for stopping by The Cellulite Investigation.  Things are a little quite around here at the moment.  I’m taking an extended break as I get married and settle into married life and a new home.  Don’t worry, I’ll be back soon!

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herama says:
5/27/2011

I saw someone posted in the comments on here the other day they had great results with that procedure, so I also went and looked it up and really couldn’t figure out what it was supposed to be. It struck me as odd I hadn’t seen/heard anything of it here in SF where we have a ton of day spas that put out those daily coupons all the time (I subscribe to practically all of those sites, and I keep my eye out for those!).
Anyway, the one thing I found interesting is that the little I read of it didn’t promise to “melt fat” but rather to tighten the skin. Since I’ve been realizing more and more that the issue I’m dealing with has more to do with skin laxity than anything else, I’m really wondering how, if at all, it is possible to tighten skin through diet and exercise. I can’t imagine that’s possible b/c if it were, people wouldn’t have wrinkles!
I have developed stretch marks all over my back in the past few years, despite little to no weight change. My doctors acknowledge the marks but have no explanation (having seen no weight change). This is all seems rather odd and distressing. I need some skin tightening!!

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The person who claimed to have great results with Venus Freeze was actually a fake comment. I try to catch them with my spam filter and comment monitoring, but sometimes the really clever ones get through. Please let me know if you see anything suspicious!

Venus Freeze doesn’t seem to be a common procedure. Besides Toronto, the only other place I see it advertised is at a clinic in San Diego. There’s a doc there who is all over the news with it. You can see a video of her talking about it here: http://scrippsderm.wordpress.com/tag/venus-freeze/

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Rose Garcia says:
10/25/2011

Just wanted to let you know there is a doctor in Panama City Florida who advertises the Venus Freeze treatments. I had thought of setting up an appointment but after reading what you posted I’m glad you saved me some money. This area is known for its plastic surgery and personally believe it is only second to California.

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That’s good to know, Rose. I didn’t realize that were offering this treatment in Florida, too. As I mentioned in the post, I have not tried this procedure myself but from what other women are saying, it doesn’t sound like it’s a good one. I’ve heard much better reports from cupping massage, and that only costs a few bucks to buy the cups and use them at home, or you could win them in our current giveaway (see: Announcing Our Bellabaci Cups Giveaway!)

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Emma says:
1/11/2012

Just to let you know they are also offering it in Orlando, I just found a coupon for it in my mail and was doing some research when I came across your site. Thanks for the heads up!

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Good to know, Emma. Thanks. Are they advertising it for cellulite or other areas?

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carla says:
4/9/2012

Hi melissa, i wasn’t sure where i could put this comment on Zerona treatments…so i thought i would write about it here and you can add it to anyplace you see fit :)

I did the recommended times-10 times- and i saw absolutely NO difference in cellulite or circumferance of my thighs at all. Now I am thin, excercise regularly (spin -that added nice muscle, pilates, yoga, wieghts and hiking) and don’t need to lose weight and I eat healthy-lots of veggies – but seem to still have cellulite.
i love your site since i always have been on a mission to get rid of cellulite. So please let your peeps know that Zerona treatments don’t work at all ( i followed their protocol and used their supplements) and it was a total waste of money and time. It is shocking to me that they dare charge so much and claim that it helps with losing inches (total bogus way of measuring too–i measured myself and wrote down my findings-which were totally different from their findings–i even said something to the woman who was measuring me–and i could see that she knew i knew what she was doing) and helping the appearance of cellulite. Please let your readers know. I have also done endermologie treatments ( i also followed their protocol to the letter) …12 times…also a total waste of time and money–they took before and after photos and even the owner admitted that there was absolutely no difference. I am sooo glad you wrote about the venus freze-thank you! I won’t be doing that either!

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Thanks so much for sharing, Carla! Reviews like this are so valuable. I will leave your comment here and also post it in a separate blog post so people won’t miss it. I agree, it’s amazing these treatments can be so expensive and still not produce results. It’s almost as if we expect them to work because they are so expensive. It doesn’t surprise me any more that inexpensive, natural treatments seem to be the most effective. Things like dry brushing and cupping massage. I can’t wait until we crack this case wide open so we can share the REAL solution with the world. We’re so close!

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Erika says:
3/21/2013

Zerona is not for cellulite. It is to lose inches. After 7 sessions i could feel the difference in my clothes and could wear pants i had almost given up on. It was worth every cent. Of course you gain it all back if you then go out and celebrate excessively for weeks after!!

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wendy says:
9/17/2012

They offer it in Huntington Beach, CA. I did not try it, and after a little research, I am not convinced it works.

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kathryn says:
5/9/2013

I’m in Vancouver and I just went to a consultation for the Venus Freeze. I’m undecided at this time because of the price tag

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Roxann says:
6/1/2013

I recently finished 6 sessions on my thighs. My skin is definitely tighter and my cellulite has diminished. I am pleased with the results.

The woman that performed the sessions said people who can withstand a higher heat get the best results. She would measure the temp of my thighs during the session. I was up to 45 degrees Celsius. Maybe that is why I saw results.

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Margo Mendoza says:
7/13/2013

I’m 41 years old an have had 2 children.I lost the weight with first child & looked almost the same before getting pregnant with excercise & diet.Well second child not the same & of course age.Ive looked & done many plastic surgery procedures & ended up with scars.I found Dr Blumes office in Scottsdale,Az & getting the results I want.Cool sculpting is a life saver with no scars.Ive seen results as soon as 3days.My concerns were fat pockets,cellulite&yes sagging skin.Ladies he is a god sent.The things he does with fillers.I feel like a girl again.

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Cindy says:
6/4/2014

Just wanted to say that it doesn’t work! I live in Massachusetts and there are a few places around that do it. I’ve had the face done and just finished with that…no results! Maybe a little tightening. She did before and after pics and I didn’t see any difference!
I’m on my 7 ab session and my stomach actually looks fatter! I’m in great shape…I exercise everyday (7 days) and eat healthy. Just had a belly that I couldn’t firm even with all the exercise and food. So I think it is another fad beauty scheme! Then you have to maintain every 2 months?? If it worked it would be one thing because I do not want to go under the knife. Its like having a massage, so thats the only good thing about it!! :( I wasted money!!

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Est1968 says:
5/31/2011

I was investegating the reaction to the treatment to see if there is any validiity to the claims. I agree that it does not get rid of cellulite rather improve the appearance by tightening the skin. There is a Plastic Surgery Clinic in the west end of Ottawa run by Dr. Lacey that offers the treatment. I was going to see if there would be any improvement for my trouble areas…

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Please let us know what you think if you do check it out. We need more intel! Thanks!

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Manu says:
6/7/2011

Hi, this post has been the only one helpful so far. I saw a package here in Canada to have 7 treatments of Venus Freeze for $199, but I feel afraid that I may have side effects or any problems. Do you know if there are any risks? Is it safe? This really does not seem to be a common procedure because I have not find reviews on the Internet. Would you have any more information about risks, side effects and so on?

Thank you!

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You’re right, Manu. It’s really difficult to find reviews of Venus Freeze online. I must defer to CI readers on this one. Does anyone know of possible risks or side effects that could be caused by Venus Freeze treatments?

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Cindy says:
6/4/2014

No side effects at all. A little red after procedure because of heat, but thats it. Read my comment above! Thats a great price….I paid $2600.00 for abs and face. No results at all!! I’m very disappointed!!

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Manu says:
6/7/2011

Hi! Thanks for your reply! If I decide to go for the treatment, I may as well let you know if I see any results, but I am thinking of using that in my belly.

I do use something else for cellulite (and I have A LOT of it in my legs and butt). I use the Wellbox from LPG. It was very expensive and I have not noticed any improvements until now! :( I have been using the machine every week for 3 months now and I also exercise (even though I am not regular with that)…I weigh about 106 pounds.

I took some pictures when I started, I tried to compare with how I am now and saw no difference. I do not know if it is because I have too much cellulite and the change was too little to be noticed. The only thing I can say is that the machine did improve the smoothness of my arms. I had some bumps and used the wellbox to see if they would go away. They did, but I stopped using the machine in my arms and the bumps are back again. I felt like testing the machine again in this area just to make sure it helped the last time, but I feel lazy at the moment. Using that for my belly, legs and butt already takes too much time (about 1 hour…).

I can not complain about the customer service or anything. They have always answered my questions promptly so far!

Sorry for the long text! I just wrote about the Wellbox here because it is the only one I have used for cellulite. I hope I will be able to see a difference after a few more months.

And I really would like to use the Venus treatment for my belly, but the lack of reviews concerns me! I am still considering that…I have a few more days to decide.

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Yes, please let us know how it goes if you do try the treatment. I wrote to Sid and asked for her thoughts on any possible side effects, so perhaps she will stop by and add to the conversation again (she is the CI reader who already tried Venus Freeze, as quoted in the post above).

I know those bumps on the arm can be caused by sugar. Have you noticed if they are affected by cutting out sugar for a day or two? Sugar is a common cause of cellulite. See our Spotlight on Sugar for more info.

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Sid says:
6/8/2011

Hi Ladies,

Regarding side effects of the Freeze – I don’t believe there are any effects or limitations like you would experience with lazer hair removal, there wasn’t the list of potential side effects for this machine like they have for some of the others. After treatment my skin was always flushed – but that was gone by the time I got home. I did experience bruising once when I had the Freeze done on my arms, but other than that I was fine. I expect if you’re pregnant or nursing they wouldn’t treat you, but that seems to be the case for all these types of treatments.

They say if you’ve got loose skin you’ll see the best results, but I think a potential problem with any of these types of tightening systems is that the connective tissue causing the cellulite may tighten, exacerbating the dimples. It seems like the part of my thigh right below my bottom is much smoother and tighter than before (no real cellulite there, but there were some ripples or ridges that I can no longer see). My bottom where the cellulite is, though it seems a bit higher doesn’t feel any more toned or tighter than before, and the dimples are the same. Actually after my 1st treatment I though maybe the dimples were more apparent – I’m not sure as I didn’t take photos but there is definately no improvement in that area. Good luck to anyone who tries it – I hope your results will be better than mine!

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Great info, Sid. Thanks so much!

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Margo says:
7/13/2013

Of course diet & excercise are the best for our problem areas.Ive noticed & was told massage helps with circulation of those areas.Ive tried massaging with my hands or those hand held manual massagers.Well I like Homedics dual head plug in massager & there is one with heat.Its stimulating blood flow so the appearance of cellulite is improved use everywhere the cheese is at.It doesn’t take it away but pushes it down from the surface of the skin.Like anything else it needs to be part of your skin care regimen.Tell your daughters & friends.I wish someone would of told me when I was younger.

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Manu says:
6/7/2011

Thanks for asking Sid to post and for the link!

I am fan of sweets so it is very hard to resist. Despite that, I have reduced the amount of my sugar intake per day. I had bumps before cutting more the sugar and I have them now after doing that, therefore I am not sure if this change has affected
the quantity of bumps in my arms.

I didn’t know that sugar actually could worsen bumps and cellulite. Thanks for the info!

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The magic time frame seems to be two weeks. If you can cut out sugar for two weeks, it will help break the cravings and make it easier to resist sugar in the future. Some people can’t even think about cutting out sugar for two weeks, and those are probably the ones who need to do it the most! Good luck, Manu! Please keep us updated on any progress. :)

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herama says:
6/8/2011

Hey Manu, Thanks for posting about the Wellbox! I’ve seen that advertised and discussed on various forums, and while there is NO way I could afford it, I’ve wondered if it really worked. The posts I’ve seen have been generally positive, but since it is expensive, there haven’t been that many posts! And the sites I’ve seen that sell them offer “user” reviews, but I generally take that with a grain of salt.
As for the sugar, well, I wish you luck. That and bread are my big downfalls. I truly feel I’m addicted to it. As soon as I have even a bite or two I immediately want more. Basically I’m white knuckling through each day…And I can’t seem to give up sugar AND bread together for more than a week. Ai yi yi!
At this point I figure it’s still beneficial if I cut my sugar consumption to every couple days or so. Still wayyyy better than the daily fro yo/cookies/candy/cake habit I’ve had until recently.

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hmmmm, maybe we should post a Request For Info about said Wellbox…

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Wendy says:
6/17/2011

Your site is great info. Am thinking of trying the Venus Freeze but would like to know side effects. concerned becasue I hear that the other lazer ZERONA has some good results but if you do not exercise consistantly you develope bumps, humps etc in the treated area. I do exercise but not as much as I should and would not want anything with the remote possibility of doing this. Does anyone know what long term effects are with the Venus?

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Wendy, did you read Sid’s comments above? I don’t know of any long term effects, but there isn’t a lot of information out there about this procedure.

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herama says:
7/2/2011

DIdn’t know where to post this: you hear of hypoxi? Saw it mentioned on EDS forum. Person said she and her daughter had some noticeable improvement. She has many posts on there so don’t think she is a shill.
Here’s the forum thread: http://www.essentialdayspa.com/forum/viewtopic.php?tid=42779

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Interesting thread. I love the bit about that blog you’ve been commenting on for awhile. :)

I have not heard of Hypoxi, but I am intrigued by these types of treatment that involve a lot of sweating. this woman seems to describe it as cycling in a rubber mini-skirt. Are you thinking of giving it a try? I still want to try the IR sauna but my friend did not have to store her newly inherited unit at my house after all. Shucks!

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herama says:
7/2/2011

I saw that woman’s blog/description. I also noticed she provided no follow up :( Perhaps some other blogger might write to her and ask what happened? :)
I would consider trying it if: 1) it was affordable; and 2) available. Doesn’t appear to be offered anywhere in my area. Or even CA. Which leads me to believe the results aren’t so great or else people would be demanding it. Although, it’s possible that it’s unpopular because it still requires exercise and many people want a quick fix that takes no effort on their part. Oh well. I totally wouldn’t mind riding a stationary bike in a hot pod wearing a rubber miniskirt. Especially if it rid me of cellulit.

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I’ve been a voyeur over at EDS. Just haven’t gotten around to registering. I know I should since there are a lot of good discussions going on, but it’s tough to keep up with this blog let alone what’s going on at other sites. So right now I rely on my fellow cellulite investigators to let me know if anything good pops up!

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nicole says:
7/23/2011

Hi there

I’m starting venus freeze this week and I have paid for a package of 1 treatment a week for 8 weeks to tighten skin around my stomach…will let you know if it battles the cellulite as well

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Thanks, Nicole! I look forward to hearing how it goes…

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Poppy says:
9/23/2011

Nicole: I am considering Venus Freeze for the stomach, did you have any luck?

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nicole says:
10/14/2011

No apparently I am the inly person in the world that has not seen results according to the owner and the company that makes the machine…10 treatments no results and I’m currently fighting to get my $1700 back :(

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Lisa Bradfield says:
9/24/2012

I just happened to read your post and it caught my eyes because I have spent several thousand + for various laser, pixels, chemical peels, dermabrasion, at minimum 15-20 SRA lasers treatments where I do not really see results. I have had ablative and non ablative treatments of all kinds and I just do not see the results being worth the time and money. I do not see these treatments being truly effective. That is MY experience. Feel free to respond. I would love to hear of your experience and if anything truly worked to your satisfaction. What results did you notice? if any

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Hi, Lisa. Your experience seems pretty common, unfortunately. Sometimes it seems the like more expensive the treatment, the less likely you are to see results! Lipo is one of the most expensive, invasive cellulite treatment out there and women report that it often makes their cellulite worse!

This is actually a good thing. The cellulite treatments that seem to be the most effective are simpler, natural techniques like massage (especially cupping massage), dry brushing, and dietary changes (like including more fat soluble vitamins and gelatin-rich foods in your diet). You can learn more about our discoveries on diet here. Bikram yoga is another treatment we’ve received a lot of positive feedback on. Check out our cellulite success stories page for more ideas on treatments that really work.

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Margo says:
7/13/2013

Ok I’m going to disagree with all the procedures you have had.I also have done most of what you have done.It does vary on different type of skin types.Also how aggressive your treatments are according to what your skin care needs are & your post care & after care.You definitely need to follow instructions given by your provider.

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Tami says:
9/27/2012

Nicole – now there are two of us that the Venus Freeze does not work for. The only two in the world! I paid a “discounted” rate of $3350 to tighten the stomach area. After 11 sessions in just over two months – nothing. I expect a refund.

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Manu says:
7/23/2011

As I said I’d post the results about Venus Freeze here if I had it…well, I had two treatments to see if my belly size would decrease a bit. I have had only 2 treatments so far and it seems my belly’s circumference is 1 cm smaller (0.39 in). I don’t know if it’s just temporary or not. I don’t have cellulite in my belly so I don’t know how that affects cellulite either. I hope I can see more results after the end of the 7 treatments and they’re long lasting.

Thanks everyone for the posts.

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Thanks for following up, Manu! Are you just doing the treatment on your stomach or is it supposed to affect your legs also? The reviews for the belly region were generally more positive than with cellulite. Does it feel like your stomach is more toned?

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singanddancethrulife says:
8/20/2014

Melissa, are you still moderating this? I would love to hear from you!

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Manu says:
7/24/2011

You’re welcome!
I’m just doing the treatment on my stomach. I could choose any other areas if I wanted to but I think it’s better if I use all treatments on just one area so that I can see if venus really works or not.

And I didn’t pay attention to how better my stomach’s skin looked like as it wasn’t too bad before the treatment, however I was checking it out now and it seems that it looks more toned.

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Pretty cool. Can I ask how much the treatments cost?

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Manu says:
7/24/2011

I got a deal of 199 dollars (before taxes) for 7 treatments. I don’t know how much each single treatment costs without the deal.

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oh, that’s right. You mentioned that before. Sorry!

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suzanne says:
8/28/2011

I am supposed to received 8 Venus freeze treatments starting monday but
the price is not $199 pour 7 but instead they want $250 per treatment and
a deal of $1750 if I take 8 treatments… I am therefore cancelling my rendez-vous,
how can there be such a difference…I was about to try it because even with
a lot of exercices and a diet… nothing change but I think I will continue to
search again…thanks

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It doesn’t sound like Venus Freeze is effective for cellulite, Suzanne, so you’re probably better off. Have you tried dry brushing? It’s only a few bucks to buy a brush and a lot of women (myself included!) saw quick results.

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Manu says:
8/30/2011

Hi, Suzanne. I believe that there’s a big difference because I got a deal and you unfortunately didn’t. Clinics can charge $199 for 7 treatments if they want, but you know, for them, the more money the better. The clinic I go to is using the Venus Freeze for the first time and launched the deal to attract clients. I think that because I asked about the price for further treatments and I was informed that for the next time, I would have to pay about $250~$300 per treatment…and I don’t have money for that. You can try to be patient and wait a bit; maybe one of the clinics in your area will offer a deal.

And thanks Melissa for the article about dry brushing. I’ve never tried that. I should!! I wonder if it would really work with me…nothing has ever helped reduce my cellulite…

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You’re welcome, Manu. It won’t heal it completely, but it will jumpstart your lymphatic system. It is not uncommon to experience a small detox reaction in the beginning, such as a skin rash. This is what happened to me but it went away after a week or two. Reading through our collection of Cellulite Success Stories might give you some more ideas for cellulite treatments that really work. Please let us know how it goes!

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Lynn says:
7/4/2013

I always had an issue with my arms…so I went to a local spa…I misunderstood the price list they shows me…I have been so upset about my bumpy arms, and now slightly loose skin, I decided to use my beloved credit card..it is REALLY expensive…I hoped for a groups or something but nothing out there for Venus freeze…I don’t know how the other girl got 7 treatments for $199..that’s amazing.,my “”special”” was 8 treatments for like $2000 (instead of $2200) …I just had treatment 4 so I have 4 to go,,,I didn’t hear anything about the final result showing up after the 3rd treatment…I do notice a difference, the fat is slightly reduced and the bumpiness is diminished (not totally gone) I wouldn’t pay that again to be honest.,,for that amount of money I’d expect total perfection..lol…but with the arms it’s VERY hard..I work out, I eat pretty well and I Do weights, but I’ve had the bumps for years…and they aren’t bad enough to do an arm lift, which leaves ugly scars..but I think they charge way too much for this procedure…I also had the cool sculpt, 2 treatments on my lower abdomen…I’m a small person but with lots fat it seems.,lol..anyway th cool sculpt was painful, not so much the treatment itself, but the massage after and for about 2 weeks I woke with sharp horrible stinging/stabbing pains..,its been 4 weeks so I will see how it goes, it is flatter but it doesn’t tighten…I thought about doing the upper abdomen,,but I don’t know if it will be worth it..the two treatments cost $1000..I did them back to back.,2 hours…I honestly think if diet and exercise doesn’t work..the best bang for your money seriously is invasive plastic surgery, tummy tuck, lipo etc..because by the time you have spent all the dollars on all these other treatments you may have well gone for the sure thing..

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nicole says:
8/28/2011

Hi there just an update…i have had 5 treatments so far and i still have five more…I have noticed a slight difference in the actual shape of my belly and i have lost an inch off of my bra line and hips…no where else…the skin does not seem to be and tighter…however I have also lost 12lbs in the 5 week period which i believe is more the cause of the inches lost…anybody have any ideas on how i could get my $1700 back if there still is no change after the last 5 treatments?

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That’s a tough one, Nicole. It sounds like you have seen decent results in the tummy region but nothing with cellulite (that’s what other women reported, too). What is the spa’s policy? I would talk to them about this right away and express your concerns. Please continue to keep us updated!

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LaVada says:
8/31/2011

I received a groupon email today for 3 venus freeze treatments in Beverly Hills CA for $185 although it would take approx 6 to 8 treatments before any results. So I set out to find information on this procedure and came across this site which I found very interesting although cellulite is not my main concern its the increasing size and loose skin in my lower absomen. Im always dreaming of the day I can afford the procedure to have it removed so when this deal popped up I was all over it. Too bad there’s not enough to convince me this is such a great deal.

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Unfortunately, it doesn’t sound like a great deal to me, either. The first three treatments wouldn’t be bad, but then you would be hooked into paying full price for the rest.

Have you tried adding extra virgin coconut oil to your diet to lose weight? I knew “they” say to watch your calories and fat intake, but a spoonful of coconut oil before a meal will help you feel satiated and reduce cravings for sugary foods (the real fat culprits!). It’s a heck of a lot cheaper than Velashape, too!

(btw–You might have to start slow if your body isn’t accustomed to digesting fats.)

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Debbie Bryan says:
9/2/2011

Hi Ladies, I just saw the same goupon advertisement in souther calif and am so tempted. It’s an hour drive, so I am going to pass and hope something becomes available for $185 closer to home. The company website looks good, although obviously biased as any company website would be biased. But, they do list how many treatments the patients in the before and after pictures had and I thought that was helpful.
Thanks for the help with the feed.
Deb

http://venustechnologies.info/venus_concept/wordpress/consumer/

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I can see how that would be tempting! An hour is right at the point where it’s doable, but it’s no fun to drive two hours for the procedure each time.

If any spots any more groupon deals, please let us know!

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AtlantaDebbie says:
9/9/2011

Living Social has a deal in Atlanta today for either Zerona or Venus Freeze

http://livingsocial.com/deals/76378-zerona-lipolaser-treatment

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Thanks, Debbie!

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Connie says:
9/23/2011

Living social in Miami just psoted deal for $99 for six visits!!

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Thanks for the heads up, Connie!! Here’s the link for anyone who is interested: http://livingsocial.com/deals/112879-six-venus-freeze-treatments?msdc_id=348

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Treena says:
9/25/2011

HI there :)
I live in London, Ontario & have been fortunate enough to take advantage of both wagjag & dealfind coupons
1. 7 – 30 minute treatments for $199
2. 4 – 30 minute for $178
3. 8 – 30 minute for $258
4. 6 – 30 minute for $198
***regular price – $250 per session!!!
Thus far, I have tried:
*5 treatments on my stomach & I have noticed both skin tightening results mostly, as well as circumferencial reduction – approx. 1/4 inch
*5 treatments on my inner tights & I have NOT noticed much difference at all….I suspect since the thigh treatments are 10 mins per leg but stomach is 20 mins for entire area – this may be the reason for fast results on my tummy :)
*1 treatment on my buttocks but plan to do 5 as well…I will keep you posted!

…I have not yet decided which area I will use the final 10 treatments for.

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It’s interesting that everyone is noticing that it works on tummy but not on thighs. I’m eager to hear if your theory that the thighs just need more time will work. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this with us, Treena!

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nicole says:
9/25/2011

HI there

Just an update on my treatments. I am now going on to treatment number 10, which is all I paid for…the treatments are not working and the owner wants me to continue with treatments and he is going to give me 5 more free ones…also the company that makes the machine has been contacted and my photos have been sent to them for investigation. Apparently I am the only one in the world that it has not worked on. I have seen other clients there that are doing areas with thinner skin (eg. face or arms) and it has been successful. I have been doing the treatments for longer periods of time and at 100% which is incredibly hot but we are trying anything we can to see results. I have decided im not going to take the free treatments because why would i subject myself to the pain and waste my precious time for something that clearly is not going to work…so not sure where im going from here, probably small claims court. Ladies if your going to do it on your face, neck arms etc I highly suggest it, however, be careful when going for areas with thicker skin (eg. thighs, stomach, bottom, or back).

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Thank you for sharing this info here, Nicole. If you think it will help, feel free to let them know you are posting about your experience here at CI. This page is the #1 search result when people google “Venus Freeze cellulite” and we are very interested in what happens with your case. I love that you are holding them accountable for the results of their treatment program–and that you sent photos to the manufacturer. Fantastic!!

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nicole says:
10/14/2011

Actually the owner of the laser spa sent them because they are quite mad that it did not work;)

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Wow, that is impressive on their part. It’s good to hear they are taking action with regard to your complaint. Keep us posted!

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Texas Lady says:
9/25/2012

I’m adding me two cents here because I think Nicole hit on something: thin skin vs. thick skin. Our faces and upper bodies have thinner skin than our lower bodies. I started the Venus Freeze and am on session 2 of 8. My skin is pretty thin all over. Veins are blue and tend to bulge, and you can see every bone, muscle, and fat glob on me. (ha ha, it sounds more ghastly than it is. Visible, but not prominent.). Anyway, I am about 5’5″ and 128 lbs, probably within weight range. I’ve been as low as 105 during a yucky medical situation in the past, and guess what–I still had cellulite. I was so skinny my hair was falling out and my gums were bleeding. That was seven years ago. Anyway, right now I’m hoping that tightened skin back there will conceal it, but I won’t know for another six weeks or so. Will try to report back.

One other thought: I’ve had two appointments, and two different technicians. The first went slow at 80% heat and spent less time overall. The second went fast at 100% and took more time overall (kept going over and over the areas.). I’m sure the ‘feel’ factor isn’t a very useful indication, but it felt like more was going on with the second tech. I’m scheduling the rest of my appointments with her.

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Texas Lady says:
9/25/2012

P.S. Shouldnhave mentioned, I am seeking treatment for the backs of thighs and buttocks.

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Thanks for sharing your experience with us! I’m curious to hear how it goes after a few more treatments.

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Texas Lady says:
12/25/2012

OK, it was a bust.

I paid a lot of money and saw absolutely no difference. Eight treatments, each at about an hour duration. Then, a six-week wait to see results. The results were that I looked exactly the same.

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Aaaah! That’s awful! What did the company say? Are you going to submit any complaints or try to get any type of refund? Thanks so much for reporting back!

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Manu says:
9/25/2011

Hum…interesting. The treatment worked for my belly but I also noticed that after a few treatments (maybe 4 or 5), my tummy had no longer a further decrease in size. Reading Nicole’s posts made me think that apparently, the treatment is just effective up to a certain point for each patient.

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That’s another important point to consider, Manu. Thanks!

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Yuliya says:
10/14/2011

This site is just wonderful, I was considering buying a package from Wagjag – 3 treatments for $199, but I think I’ll pass…. as all of us, my major concern is cellulite, but my other problem is poor skin elasticity on my face that makes my skin look older and brought wrinkles under my eyes. I’m 27, was wondering what is the most effective non-surgical treatment for my face….

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Great question, Yuliya. Here are two suggestions for you, both of which we are currently investigating here at CI.

Some beauty experts claim sagging, bags under the eyes, etc are caused by slackening of the facial muscles. Many women report excellent results with facial exercises such as “Facercise,” a program developed to work out the muscles in the face. You can learn the 11 minute routine for free here: Free Facial Exercise Videos to Naturally Treat Wrinkles, Laugh Lines, Dark Circles and Other Effects of Aging

Another idea is to try lymphatic massage for the face. One of the most popular methods is Tanaka Facial Massage, designed by a beauty expert in Japan. This routine is only 3 minutes and you can learn it here: Tanaka Facial Massage Instructional Videos

You are supposed to see results within a few days. Please let us know how it goes!

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Mary smith says:
11/2/2011

Wow! Just found your site, wish I had found it several months ago, I did the zerona treatment, I am 5’10 weigh 134 lbs so not seriously overweight, however this year I have developed nasty cellulite on my legs. Bought a groupon for 6 treatments and the medical spa I went to gave me 3 extra because I started on my legs but they said that it wouldn’t work there. Well after lots of treatments guess what…….. Nothing , nada, zip! The only result I received was an empty wallet. they measured me and said I had lost 6 total inches …..right , my cloths fit the same and my body looked the same to me…what a load…..save your money ladies ,in this economy i can’t just throw away money on a product that doesn’t work, aren’t there any regulations to stop this blatant false advertising?

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That’s awful, Mary! Hopefully you weren’t out too much money since you had the groupon. But still, it’s tough to throw a couple hundred bucks or so down the drain like that. Did you ask the spa if there is anything they can do to make it up to you? At the very least, sharing your experience here will prevent other women from making the same mistake.

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Mary smith says:
11/5/2011

That’s why I wrote, I think this ia a wonderful site my mistake your gain! Let’s just say it was an expensive hour of rest! Has anyone heard of Artefill? It’s a facial filler that is supposed to last several years unfortunately I’m at the age where I’m young on the inside but for some unknown reason my body and face refuse to comply with the inside Mary! Very ungrateful of me. I’ve tried Botox and juverderm both work great but very expensive for such a short period.
Im new to cellulite so this is hard, I’m going to start working out and will also combine new techniques such as rolling , brushing ect… I will try each one by itself and let you know my findings.

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Fantastic, Mary! We’re glad to have you on board investigating cellulite treatments with us! I tried to test them in isolation like that in the beginning, but I grew impatient so now I test anything I think has potential as soon as I get the chance.

I did some research on Artefill and I’m seeing some major red flags. I’ll write a separate post about it soon. I’m sure other women are interested in it, too. Thanks for your question, Mary!

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carla says:
7/24/2012

I’m looking forward to hearing what you have to write about artefill too :)

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Christine says:
6/1/2013

How about Radiesse instead? That one is supposed to last up to 2 years. Juvederm is half that time. But I haven’t used it. So would others say this is true? What is the best longest lasting filler?

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Carol says:
11/2/2011

I got a group coupon today for Venus Freeze, and I’m interested in it for my neck. I’m not overweight and don’t have cellulite, but would like to tighten up my neck skin. Any comments on that? I have a day or two to decide.

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Hi, Carol. Sorry we don’t have any info yet on using Venus Freeze for the neck area specifically. If you try it, please let us know what you think!

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Manu says:
11/5/2011

Hi, Carol! Venus Freeze has worked for my belly, at least up to now, but my belly’s skin was not loose. The girl who worked at the clinic had very loose arm skin, though and she did the treatment in only one arm to see if there would be a difference, and it did have. I saw her arm and it had much less loose skin than the other. I don’t know if that would work for your neck, though.

I also haven’t found anyone who had very good results with Venus Freeze for cellulite so far. I would like to find a good treatment for that. I have too much cellulite in my legs and butt :(
PS.: Melissa, I’ve been trying the dry brushing but it doesn’t seem to work with me :( I followed your instructions and saw a video on youtube from another person. I wonder if I’m doing anything wrong…

Thanks.

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You’re probably doing it right, Manu. Some women don’t see any immediate results with dry brushing. I’m not sure what the differentiating factor is there. For me, it seemed like a lot of my lymphatic congestion was right under the surface of my skin. Those first two weeks of dry brushing really jump-started my lymphatic system. My skin has always seemed to need frequent exfoliation and the dry brushing helped with that (although now I rely on a new technique for exfoliation called oil bathing.)

Have you tried any type of cupping massage on your legs? We’ve received incredible feedback so far about the Bellabaci cups. Here are a few reader reviews and here is a giveaway we’re running (closes November 23, 2011).

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Manu says:
11/6/2011

I’ve never tried the cupping massage, it would be good to give it a try. I don’t know what to do anymore to see an improvement of my cellulite! I’m not in the US, can I participate anyway?

Thanks.

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Let me check with the company, Manu. They’re not in the US either and they do ship internationally, so perhaps I can open the giveaway to other countries, too.

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Kaye Youngren says:
11/6/2011

There is a Spa advertising the Venus Freeze here in Portland and I too am curious as to whether you get actual results. This Spa offered the Zerona treatment which I experienced and I truly, truly lost 17 inches after two treatment sessions of 8 over a period of several weeks.

They also sold a cleansing package with a promise of a weight loss of at least 9 pounds, I lost 2 ounces – so that part did not work.

Can anyone comment about Venus Freeze vs Zerona?

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Good question, Kaye. From what I understand, Zerona is a body-contouring laser treatment that “zaps” fat cells while Venus Freeze uses magnetic pulses and radio frequency for skin tightening. From the info we’ve gathered so far, Venus Freeze doesn’t seem to be an effective treatment for cellulite. When you lost the 17 inches with Zerona, did you notice any change in cellulite?

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Pam says:
9/2/2012

I tried the Venus Freeze at a spa in Portland, Oregon. (12 sessions for $1399 I believe.) I was looking for skin tightening on my upper arms and neck/jowl area. The first few sessions I saw no results at all. Then I started to notice that my skin actually looked worse! The director of the spa told that “was simply not possible”. Well, I am here to say it is possible. I finished up with my treatments and then they offered me 3 free treatments (saying I just needed to do more treatments to see results). But after one more treatment it was clear that my skin was FAR MORE WRINKLY than before, with strange lines running up and down my upper arms from armpit to elbow.

FYI, they do not take “before” photos at this spa, and there is no doctor on the premises. But it is a high end spa in the Pearl district.

I tried calling the Venus Freeze company and got the run around. No one would address my issues or return my calls.

I finally convinced them to take photos at the spa but with no actual “before” picture it is hard to compare. It has been a couple months now since my last treatment and I would say my arms look even worse. The whole thing is humiliating. I plan to go back and talk to the director of the spa but I doubt I will see my money again.

Long story short: BUYER BEWARE OF VENUS FREEZE!!

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HV says:
11/22/2011

I am in the process of receiving Venus Freeze on my thighs and butt, 3 treatments so far (1/2 hour on each leg/buttox at 100%). As far as side effects, I haven’t noticed any. You feel a lot of heat from the laser, but it is tolerable for me.

So far, I haven’t noticed any results in reduction of cellulite. Right after the treatment, the skin looks smoother, but I suspect that may be due to swelling. I was told that you need 8-10 treatments to see good results, so I bought 8. I’ll post an update after I finish all the treatments.

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Thanks for adding your experience here, HV! First-hand testimonials like yours are really helpful.

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maryann says:
12/13/2011

Hi just want your followers to know I paid for 8 sessions of venus freeze. I got a few extra since there were zero results.
Total waste of money

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Thanks for letting us know, Maryann! Where you trying to use it to reduce cellulite or for something else?

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maryann says:
12/18/2011

Yes for cellulite, back of thighs, under the buttocks and two strange pockets that never go away in saddlebag area. I am a pilates instructor and given the amount of classes I teach even such rigorous exercise never helped , I thought this would do the trick. Just purchased the rumble roller.

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Aiy, that must have been so disappointing. Did you complain to the company? Please let us know what you think of the Rumble Roller? I haven’t used it much on my legs directly, but I find it is excellent for increasing circulation in my back!

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Cindy says:
12/14/2011

Venus Freeze is being done here in Gresham Oregon at a Cosmetic Laser Center. I am an Aesthetician but don’t know much about it. I just went in for a consultation on the Venus Freeze and have gained some knowledge. I believe the tech said that the Venus Freeze has only been around for the last 2 1/2 yrs, which would explain why there isn’t much info online yet. I don’t get a strong impression that it’s about cellulite. It seems to be more about skin tightening. I’m considering it on my neck and jawline. This clinic is getting results. The results are on themselves and their husbands as well as patients. This technique is heating up the dermis to help promote the collagen to relax, so the skin surface can look smoother. It also has a tightening effect. Heating up collagen also promotes more collagen so to keep the look more stable for a while. Of course, you’d have to do this again at some point down the road as you age. But maybe some years would go by before you did. Everyone is different. Over all my years in this field and my own research, and trial and error, cellulite is a tough one. There is no easy fix on this curse for women. If I do try this, I will post my comments for all. Hope this info helped

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Monica says:
12/15/2011

Hi Cindy,
how much do they charge at the Laser Center for 1 treatment or a series of 6?
My doctor here on California has a special for 6 treatments at $ 1200 or 1 for 400. I would love to have it done for my neck an jawline, but it is a lot of money if it doesn’t work. Have you seen some results on clients?

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Thank you, Cindy! I appreciate your common-sense approach here. We’re eager to hear how it goes. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!

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Tete Mon says:
12/23/2011

Hi, I am so happy that I found your site, its awesome! And you are totally right, there are not many reviews online, also I could not find real pictures from results other than the super spectacular ones that the company (Venus MP2) has online on brochures and clinical studies (that they posted online). What I can tell you is this, I am a medical doctor, and I have been trying for a week (like 4-6 hours of research each time) to find real clinical facts for this system, a non invasive lipolysis system, since I wanted to get one for my consult, I agree there is not much out there that looks trust worthy (and less for the cellulite results, if none). I went to a providers demonstration for clinicians, they even gave a free session. So what I can offer you some information about the product, which is this: the machine works with Radio Frequency plus electromagnetic therapy (that is how they call it) and heat. So what it does when it heats up the skin area, they claim it breaks up the lipocytes (the fat cells) that are underneath, when they break they transform into a easier compound to transport and its easier to “flush” through the lymphatic system, this breaking of the cells, will make less space, so that and the thermic stimulation will tight the skin (the other question is for how long? how permanent?). But the thing about this kind of machine (and there are tons of them on the market now) is that as your many reviewers say, it does not work for everyone, nor for everything. The Venus Freeze (there are 2 or 3 models I think) its mainly focused for 4 things they say: skin tightening, antiage (I imagine since they claim it stimulates the collagen production) then cellulite, then circumference reduction, I have the leaflet here and I have not idea if this results they say are in actual order of importance or if is just for merchandizing the product. I had a hard time to find clinical studies about this, I found like 30 links, but when I started to check the biblio, guess what? the same M.D. was in almost all of them, and weirdly enough, they all were free articles (just to clarify this, usually in medical practice if you want to access published studies, articles, trials, etc, any info online you would have to pay to check the whole study, like the 20 dollars per article, or a subscription to medical info site, which is the professional way, there are not many “free serious articles”) so what this tells me, it could be 3 things, is either this company has done a good effort-trick putting some articles out to sustain their claims or there is not so many real clinical studies done yet (new tech), to prove the actual results, or finally, this is just a scam. I can tell you that botulinic toxin, known as botox, has like 6000 studies, on different uses, that tells you a lot. But that one has been used for a while, more than 20 years, so I was really wondering why I could not find anything, until today, when I did find some comparative articles with different machines that have similar tech. As general medic I could imagine with the venus some results with the RF, (and this kind of tech sounds so exciting! no surgery no down time) not so much with the electromagnetic pulses (there are no studies to sustain any claim) the heat per se can stimulate collagen, sure, the 3 altogether, we will see. On the other side I got the session for my thigh area and abdomen. I will tell you later what I think about it in the most neutral way possible, personally I do not like this kind of instant or magic products that offer lots, also since I also am a woman and got lots of emotional issues with my body, but well, maybe we are really arriving to the era of this kind of technology, so it can be a controversial issue. I can also advice, that if you really are interested in this kind of treatment, 1. you should have realistic expectations (remember is not a real liposuction, is just the subtle next best thing), also 2. improve your water intake during the weeks of the treatment, and in any case, since its so expensive and you cannot afford it, try looking for similar tech, bipolar, tripolar, RF, etc. 3.take a picture in your house before the first treatment, in the middle and in the last session, and then a month and 3 months later to perceive actual changes. So you can compare and not be fooled. Sorry for the long response but I really think is good for all women to know, I can post the links of the real studies I found if anyone wants to read about this too. Thanks for the time to read, and the lovely platform to expose this issues :)

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This is awesome. Thanks for all this information! It is interesting to hear about this from a doctor’s perspective. Especially a doctor who is also a patient! I’m eager to hear what you think about the results of your session, too. Thanks again for sharing!!

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Cindy says:
1/16/2012

Dr., what are your thoughts on RF? I have done treatments with that technology and have not seen results. The areas I was treating were on my body not my face. Sometimes, that makes a difference for some reason. I’m considering Venus Freeze on my neck and jawline. But, RF isn’t directed well. Those waves spread and not always going to be on the area you are trying to improve. In looking into Venus Freeze, was there anything that told you that the waves were being more directed

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Tete Mon says:
2/29/2012

Hi:
I am sorry I did not have time to check again the site. So I can tell you now that i went to get the session, this is only a temporal result, but the good thing is that if you are dieting at the same time the results can be improve in the long run. Meaning this is an aid not really a solution. Remember this problem although has an huge genetic root it actually mainly comes to be multifactorial. So general health, exercise, water, food intake etc, there are all part of the problem as part of the solution.
About RF versus Venus, the only thing is that the Venus has an special miniadaptor to fit the sides of the face to run it more smoothly, but I honestly assume same results unless they can prove it otherwise. But in the end is mainly the same thing, the octapolar thing and all, is just plain merchandising since the growth factors they say it stimulates with the magnetic impulse its a medical benefit not yet proved in esthetic medicine. So if it is plain RF or venus its mainly the same, but, as all medical tools, if it is done properly, constantly and with other measures (care, food, water, exercise, etc) it will help to control and sustain some results, and it does work for some people, so do not despair.

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Natalie says:
1/5/2012

So glad i stumbled upon your site. Have ALWAYS had BAD cellulite on thighs and didnt know there was much that could help. Can you send me your findings? Never heard of “cupping”. Willing to try anything at this point. Lipo didnt work!

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I’m glad you found us too, Natalie! Sorry to hear about your experience with lipo. Unfortunately so many women find out the hard way that lipo doesn’t work for cellulite. Let me know if you’re up for sharing more info on your experience with it. I would love to write a post warning women about it.

The best way to get caught up to date on our investigation so far is to read through our Cellulite FAQ section. Please let me know what you think or if you have any other questions!

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Kelly says:
1/10/2012

I just had my first Venus Freeze treatment yesterday on the area just under my buttocks and the sides of my thighs as a cellulite treatment and (understandably), I haven’t seen results yet but I have 5 treatments left. I wanted to post because I wanted to point out that a) you have to drink tons of water, b) you have to exercise very, very regularly, c) have to eat well and avoid salt, and d) they advertise (in Canada at least) that it is a TEMPORARY reduction of cellulite. I’m sure it could become permanent if you keep up the water intake, healthy eating, and regular exercise. I just wanted to point out that people who have not seen results may not have been doing these things in conjunction with the treatments. Regular weight loss/heatlthy stuff you should be doing anyway. Not to say that it could just be a bunch of crap anyways or that it’s mainly for skin tightening but I want to point out that it doesn’t reduce cellulite on its own while you sit at home on the couch eating chips and the technician should (as mine did) make it clear that there are other factors. If there is a way to post pics (or I can email them), I will do so after my last (6th) treatment.

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This is great info, Kelly. Thanks! I’m curious to hear what you think after you have a few more treatments. I just added a forum to the site and you can post pictures there. Feel free to add a topic about venus freeze here: http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/forum/thermae Or you can always email them to me and I can post them. Whatever works best for you. Thanks for sharing your experience with us!

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Marcela says:
1/14/2012

I know of a spa locally in Miami that is doing the Venus Freeze. The results vary from person to person as well as how many sessions are required. The minimum seems to be 4, though for some individuals, I am told it can be more. I am actually going for my first session this Tuesday. I have met some of the clients that are currently doing sessions at this spa and it is pretty amazing. Here is a description of how it works: “The magnetic pulse component of (MP)2 induces the release of growth factors required for the sprouting of new blood vessels, as well as for proliferation of dermal fibroblast. Simultaneously, the RF component induces collagen and elastin synthesis by causing controlled thermal damage in the dermis, which triggers the self-repair mechanism of skin tissue. The result is a marked improvement is skin tightness and elasticity, and in overall skin condition.”

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Hmmm, sounds like marketing material. How does a magnetic pulse induce growth factors? What are growth factors? Does the body sprout new blood vessels? I’m not saying it can’t work, I just don’t understand their description of how it works. Did any of the women you talked to notice dramatic improvements in their cellulite, or were they using it for other areas?

Good luck with your appointment on Tuesday, Marcela. Please let us know how it goes!!

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Marcela says:
1/15/2012

From the research that I have done, it sounds like this is much more effective on individuals who are looking for firmer skin, something to replace plastic surgery, etc. But, I have also heard it helps you loose weight. After the treatments, you are supposed to walk for at least 30 minutes. I will try to get a more scientific description of how it really works. Thank you.

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Thanks, Marcela! That seems to be the consensus from the reviews we’ve received here, too. It seems to work better for women who are looking for a skin tightening effect. I don’t recall anyone saying it works for cellulite. Thanks for going undercover for us to gather this critical intelligence. :)

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Tete Mon says:
2/29/2012

Melissa, this actually means that this stimulation (growth factors) regenerates the primary ways that create collagen, collagen is in charge of the tightening of the skin, making it look younger but along of the genetics, age, care and the proportion of fat in the area. If you stimulate collagen, yes new vessels will appear but the thing is that the body by itself its always creating new vessels. The important thing here is the destruction of the fat cell with the RF of the venus and other RF systems, since it does destroy the cell and its surroundings and when you loose fat cell the skin looks firm. The reason why this results of treatments are temporal is because you need to occupy the area left or other mini fat cells will fill up the space as soon as you leave the treatment or diet, hence the need of good health habits mainly exercise and water. I hope this helps

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Thanks for this info, Tete Mon! Did you end up buying a Venus Freeze machine for your practice? Any idea why it works for some women and not others? I haven’t heard anyone say it works for cellulite except for the most recent comment from Lani. I’m working on getting more info about that.

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Christine says:
1/20/2012

I thoroughly enjoyed reading your page & comments. Before I begin, I have to say I support all of the innovative non-surgical procedures offered out there. I just wish they were so expensive. I felt compelled to inform you of my 8 sessions scheduled for Venus Freeze on my face & neck. I’m excited & hopefully in 8 weeks, will be able to get back to you with positive results. In addition to this procedure, I’ve tried skin tightening 2x (late 30’s), E-Matrix (5 treatments-2011-40 yr old), and laser-lipo on my belly, sides, chin (2010). I do not recommend laser -lipo. Is there anyone out there with a positive experience? Ever since I got it done, I’ve felt more self conscious & deformed. I’ve never experienced so much physical pain in my life. There’s an entire area on my belly that’s very lumpy. Nerves in my jaw area healed slowly, taking about 2 months for me to move the left side of my mouth. I obviously have a strong interest in seeing what works for my body and I accept the risks involved. My original consultation intent was to fix the lumps on my belly. The dr. recommended 2 tx’s of i-Lipo, but the receptionist gave me 4 for the same price… The dr. reported of seeing improvements wth i-Lipo from laser lipo surgery. I must add that she did not endorse laser lipo. Writing about my experiences is new to me and sharing my experiences is very rare. I don’t share my experiences with people in my life because of judgment and I don’t want others to think I’m insecure or vain. I want to look better when I look at myself so I’ve put myself & my wallet out there. Lastly~Since I was 18~ I work out, eat well, drink my water, take my vitamins & get my sleep, but when you’re pushing 42, age is not just a number :)

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Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Christine! Many of us here at CI are in the same boat, so there is definitely no need to feel self conscious here! If it makes you feel any better, I’ve had cellulite since my teen years. I’ve always been interested in health (though not as much as I am now) and made an effort to stay active, avoid sweets, maintain my weight, drink lots of water, etc, and yet I’m still plagued by the blight.

Since launching this blog, I learned that one of the major causes of poor circulation is fluoride. It was causing crazy cystic acne (see the pictures here) and probably clogging up the lymphatic pathways in my legs, too. It’s the reason I think I have more than my fair share of cellulite. I mention it because sometimes the source of cellulite can be something that was totally out of our control. There is no need to feel guilty or ashamed of having cellulite!

Thanks again for offering to share your thoughts on the Venus Freeze treatment. I am looking forward to hearing how it goes!

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Jeanette says:
1/27/2012

Hi….I went today for my first venus freeze for my face, jawline and my neck. After the first treatment I’ve already seen a Huge difference. My face feels tighter and looks younger. My neck area has really tighten. I’m happy with the results after my first treatment. I have an appt next week for my second treatment….now here is the problem I have not negotiated a deal for the next 6 treatments. I understand that one will have to do touch up at times to keep up with it’s tightness….question is:Do I really need 8 treatments???

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Great question, Jeanette! If anyone has any thoughts on this, please share! I know a lot of people have reported finding groupon deals for a batch of treatments. Any chance there’s a current one for your area?

It sounds like Venus Freeze it best left to treatments like this, where it’s addressing saggy skin issues. It’s almost as if they started marketing it for cellulite just to get more use out of the machines. I haven’t heard from any who was happy about the results for cellulite. Am I wrong?

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Cindy says:
1/28/2012

Most of the success with Venus Freeze is NOT for cellulite even though it is mentioned. I think it’s a buzz word used to entice women since cellulite is such a problem. The industry obviously knows that.

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That is what I suspected, Cindy. It’s a shame because a lot of women seem to be wasting their money trying to use Venus Freeze as a cellulite treatment.

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Cindy says:
1/28/2012

Jeanette, most packages are of 4 or 6 treatments. The Venus Freeze is like most treatments in that you will need maintenance appts. I would buy a package and make sure that when you get to the point of being satisfied, your leftover appts are honored since you did buy them. Just a suggestion

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Mark says:
2/28/2012

Need some advice!

In Dec 2010 I had lipo on my chest (man boobs) and love handles. The results achieved on the love handles were amazing and was extremely happy with the result. However, I was still not happy with my chest, and after seeing my surgeon he performed lipo for the second time.

Aug 2011, I had my second lipo treatment and the surgeon is confident he has removed all the fat.

Feb 2012, Although there is some good results from the lipo treatments and according to the surgeon all the fat has been removed, I am still not happy with the results. The surgeon suggests that the skin has not fully retracted and is loose.

His advice is not to have lipo. I am happy with this as I don’t want to go through the discomfort, pain and anxiety of having the procedure again. And not to mention wearing the undergarmet.

Anyway, he has suggested I have 8 – 10 sessions of Venus Freeze to see results with skin tightening around my chest area.

What advice can people give me? I understand by reading this blog that Venus Freeze may not be the cure for cellulite. But what about results for skin tightening after lipo treatment?

I am a fit and athletic guy and I don’t carry a lot of body fat. I wear slim fitted clothing, it’s just the man boobs that really bring me down.

Helpful advice would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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Cindy says:
2/28/2012

Mark, trying the Venus Freeze is a great idea. It seems to have better success on torso areas. I think it’s because it’s a smaller area than the legs, etc. Will be interested to hear how it works for you if you should decide to go that route

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Hi, Mark. Just wondering what you decided to do? It does seem like people have positive results with Venus Freeze for loose skin. Please give us an update if you get a chance!

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Lani says:
3/9/2012

My daughter is on her 6th Venus Freeze treatment out of a planned 8 now, with the Panama City, Florida doctor that Rose Garcia referred to earlier. She is not overweight, is a runner, and exercises daily, but has always had what she describes as “lumpy-bumpies” on her thighs and buttocks. She has been VERY happy with the results she’s gotten — although obviously the question is whether these results are going to last, and whether someone who wasn’t in as good physical shape would have seen the same results.

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Hi, Lani. Thanks for your comment. Your daughter is the first person we’ve heard from who mentioned positive results from Venus Freeze regarding cellulite. I’m assuming that’s what she means by “lumpy-bumpies,” right? :)

Are there any more details you can share about her experience? When you said she is “very happy with the results,” does that mean her cellulite went away completely? Were there any negative side effects? Did she make any other changes when she started the treatments? Also, if you don’t mind giving a clue to your age, can you tell us her age group (teen, twenties…)? Thanks so much!

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Lani says:
3/15/2012

Melissa, My daughter will be 30 this year; the only negative she mentioned was extreme heat during the treatment and a little persistent redness/sensitivity after which was gone within 24-48 hours. I would be happy to send you photos before and after 5 treatments, although I don’t want them publicly posted. She never had extreme amounts of cellulite, but she definitely had some of the cottage-cheese look going on. There was no weight loss during her treatments, and she maintained the regular schedule of running and weight training at her gym that she has been doing for the past couple of years.

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Thanks, Lani! I will check my email for the pics.

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Ronni Bedford says:
3/21/2012

I have been doing the Venus Freeze treatments for 5 weeks now, the results so far are increadable lost inches on waist and hips and my love handles are completely gone I have two more treatments left and I can then opt for maintenance which I will definitely do. Of course you do need to lead a healthier life ie: eat healthy and try to keep somewhat active . Since starting the treat ment I have lost 11lbs that I attribute to my lifestyle change the Venus freeze simply made me lose inches and tighten the area I would recommend this procedure 100 percent.

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Thanks for the review, Ronnie! Do you mind providing more details about your experience? How old are you? What lifestyle changes did you make when you started the treatment? In what country/state did you have the treatment? Did you go for one treatment per week? Thanks for any more info you can provide!

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Girlsies says:
3/23/2012

Hi! So happy to have stumbled across this incredible amount of information. Okay, will give you my background first, and then “the plan.” I am 40 years old, and had a fat transfer proceduere 2 years ago. I had this performed at a Medi Spa here in Western Canada. Using liposuction, the Dr. harvested the fat from my outer (lateral) thighs and injected it into the upper quadrants of each breast. They were quite “deflated” after three children (last 2 were twins.) Ok, so within 6 months, the area that had received liposuction was lumpy and puffed out. I waited a few months longer but nothing changed. At the one year mark, I shelled out $1300 for 7 sessions of Med Contour which accomplished nothing. Fast forward 9 months and I’m NOT looking forward to beach season. I scheduled an appt. this past week to do a liposuction “touch up.” Instead of that, they have asked if I will be a model (guinea pig…lol) for the Venus Freeze machine they are getting in next week. I will receive 8 treatments (FREE) over the next 6-8 weeks. I feel like I’ve nothing to lose by trying (fingers crossed I lose a few dimples and a few cm). The company rep met with me today and will be doing the treatments, so I’m assuming they will be done correctly. I will take pics, measurements, and post every week in an attempt to provide as much information as possible. My first treatment is on April 2 (2012). By the way, the breasts are fantastic. Still have great volume after almost 2 years, so I certainly don’t regret the entire procedure.

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Hard to resist that offer. You can’t beat FREE! I haven’t heard anyone complain of negative side effects to the treatment (besides the prices tag, of course) so you’re right, it doesn’t seem like you have anything to lose!

I’m eager to see how this goes for you. Are you using it only to treat your legs? Is cellulite your primary concern, or is it a different types of lumpiness/scarring from the lipo treatment?

If you are up for it, it would be great to hear more about your experience in our discussion forum. You can even post pics there which makes it more conducive to this types of conversation. I created a topic for it here: Venus Freeze Guinea Pig. Can’t wait to hear more!

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Shar says:
4/6/2012

I live in Chicago just read about Venus Freeze. I M interested in doing it on the face, to tighten the skin. I am assuming this will also help with wrinkles. Has anyone had much success. I just turned 60 the other day and although my face isn’t awful, it could use some help. Having recently lost 150 pounds, my face is a bit saggy. Any suggestions?

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Hi, Shar. Thanks for your comment. I haven’t heard from anyone whose tried VF on the face. People seem to report positive results with sagging skin along the waistline, though. You could ask around in our forum: Venus Freeze Guinea Pig.

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Tammy says:
4/10/2012

I had 10 treatments of Venus Freeze and the before and after photos of my legs were identical. I had NO improvement whatsoever. Your skin either has elasticity or it doesn’t. It’s genetics and there’s nothing that can be done other than surgery. (not a recommendation, just an observation)

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That’s a shame, Tammy. Thanks for sharing your experience with VF. Hopefully it will save other women from making the same mistake. I can’t say I agree that it’s a genetic condition and nothing can be done about it, though. Ironically, the more expensive or invasive a procedure is, the less effective it seems to be. Many women claim lipo made their cellulite worse! (It can remove fat, but that’s not the same thing.) We are seeing the most positive results with natural treatments such as dry skin brushing and cupping massage. This is good news for those of us suffering from the blight!

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carla says:
4/10/2012

hey, just saw a segment on the TODAY show about cellulase (spelling?)…a NEW operation to get rid of cellulite…just thought i would put it out there!

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carla says:
4/10/2012

oops! It’s CELLULAZE. Here is a video…anybody else see anything about it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2ZrBTHu8O8

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Carla, let me know if you have specific questions about this and I will ask the rep about them. I’m already going to ask her about side effects and recovery time.

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It’s funny you mention that, Carla. A rep for the company just sent me an information sheet about it. I only read through it briefly but it made me cringe. It’s one of those procedures that severs the fibers that attach the fat to the skin. I need to look into it more before I decide how I feel about it, but my initial impression is not favorable. These treatments tend to be expensive, painful, temporary and they don’t address the real cause of the problem.

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carla says:
4/10/2012

They must be doing some hard core selling right now then. and Yes! It was expensive! 2500 bucks for one area-1 thigh…but i doubt it was the WHOLE thigh-so you are looking at potentially 5000 or 7000 dollars! OUCH! And it looked a little like how they do liposuction although the instrument appeared to be thinner and it was only local anestetic…and yes they cut the fibers. The Dr has been doing it for 2 years and he seems to think that it has stayed away this long that it would be permanent…although i bet it would come back to some degree if you gained weight. That could be a potential question…Also, i would like to know how they judge an “area”… i would need it on my whole thigh…knee and up…and of course saddlebags…Now I am not heavy -i’m 5’6 120 lbs…it’s just that i gain weight in my thighs so it I never wear shorts or anything since cellulite goes all the way down to my knee.

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Great questions, Carla. I will add them to the list. Let me know if you come up with any more.

The treatment sounds a lot like RejuveSkin (aka subcision), only with lasers. That one didn’t get a great review here at CI! (See Rejuveskin Cellulite Treatment)

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carla says:
4/10/2012

Oh! I would love an update on your cupping experience :)

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Here’s where I’m at now with the cups. I notice a MAJOR difference using my facial cups and a subtle difference with the body cups. The facial cups help my fluoroderma breakouts heal in half the time. The difference on my legs is more difficult to gauge. I after about 3 months, I am noticing more muscle definition and the cellulite is less apparent on my calves. The cellulite on the thighs still persists, though. My legs used to be very tender during the cupping treatment but that has gone away, which I’m hoping it because my lymphatic circulation is improving. I’m still optimistic about cupping so I’m going to continue the treatment for several more months to see how it goes. Several of our fellow cellulite investigators and I are tracking our progress in this threat on the CI discussion forum. You can monitor our updates at The Cupping for Cellulite Challenge.

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Cynthia says:
6/19/2012

I have been looking for something to tighten and lessen the look of cellulite. I Do notice that my cellulite bothers me MORE since I have gotten older which blows because I am 53 and look 10 years younger and I am tall and thin BUT I haven’t worn shorts in over 10 years. I think skin tightening along with some sort of RF would work best for me. I saw a derm in the Los Feliz area that showed me before and after pictures of her own patients who had thermage coupled with cellupulse and the results looked amazing but it was very very costly and requires maintenance every three months(one treatment each time)….so extremely costly over the long run, but I think if someone has the money, there can be major improvement. Has anyone investigated cellupulse coupled with thermage?

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Interesting, Cynthia. Neither of these treatments have come up yet as far as I can recall. Usually that’s not a good sign (people like to spread the word about treatments that work). But it’s definitely worth looking into. Does the doc you mentioned have a website?

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Lynn says:
7/4/2013

I just noticed the mention of cellupulse…I had looked into cellulaze a doctor in Birmingham Alabama performs it,,but then I got a groupon for cellupulse…I had six treatments…but it was pretty cheap like $199 with groupon,,,right after th treatment it looked better Because it as tighter due to irritation,,,but it wasn’t lasting and thank goodness I only did 6 …and it wasn’t costly..,that’s why a year later I tried the Venus freeze…I heat up quick with Venus freeze because I don’t have a. Lot of fat on my arms and apparently gets better results than more fat…I heard it works good on the face, but some of us are using fillers and some want to remove fat..crazy…they told me if tightens bit doesn’t remove fat do face, I don’t see how it can distinguish between wanting fat removed and tightening and just wanting tightening…anyway I don’t need anything for the face…and my dermatologist said he found thermage works good in the face but not the body..it seems it all comes down to the fact we are all so different and what works for one doesn’t work for another, and unfortunately since all these treatments are so overpriced its a gamble….

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grace says:
8/21/2012

Hi! i was looking for info on venusfreeze. The med spa i go to in n. hollywood for laser hari removal is having a special for $100 a treatment and they even gave me a free demo of 15 mins. I am interested in reducing my circumference of my abdomen and my love hanles/muffin top. I have lost 30-40 lbs in last yr and half, i work out regularly but i feel good about myself. im 5’6 weigh 133lbs, and still trying to loose 8lbs. I feel more confident but i have an upcoming trip and i would love to wear a tw piece bathing suit, i have even bought them! so i was really interested in getting this treatment done but didnt want to spend if i wasnt going to see any results. this forum has helped with everyone experience but im still aprehensive. my abs just need t be tighter and smaller and im doing so many sit up daily and nothing, like the dr. said genetics has a lot to do withh it. well thanks for all the comments i will let you all know if i decide to do and my results.

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Thanks for keeping us updated, Grace! Good luck with whatever you decide! Looking forward to hearing about it…

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Pam says:
9/2/2012

I just posted this as a reply to someone above but thought I should just submit my experience as a general comment.

I tried the Venus Freeze at a spa in Portland, Oregon. (12 sessions for $1399 I believe.) I was looking for skin tightening on my upper arms and neck/jowl area. The first few sessions I saw no results at all. Then I started to notice that my skin actually looked worse! The director of the spa told that “was simply not possible”. Well, I am here to say it is possible. I finished up with my treatments and then they offered me 3 free treatments (saying I just needed to do more treatments to see results). But after one more treatment it was clear that my skin was FAR MORE WRINKLY than before, with strange lines running up and down my upper arms from armpit to elbow.

FYI, they do not take “before” photos at this spa, and there is no doctor on the premises. But it is a high end spa in the Pearl district.

I tried calling the Venus Freeze company and got the run around. No one would address my issues or return my calls.

I finally convinced them to take photos at the spa but with no actual “before” picture it is hard to compare. It has been a couple months now since my last treatment and I would say my arms look even worse. The whole thing is humiliating. I plan to go back and talk to the director of the spa but I doubt I will see my money again.

Long story short: BUYER BEWARE OF VENUS FREEZE!!

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Thanks for sharing your experience with us, Pam! That is frightening! It’s a shame they didn’t take “before” pictures. That’s strange. I thought those were pretty much universal.

The clinical manager for Venus Concept, the North American head office for Venus Freeze, occasionally stops by The Cellulite Investigation and has offered to help dissatisfied customers in the past. Her name is Tracey Mancuso. The contact info she left last time was tracey@venus-concept.com and 888-907-0115. I hope that helps!

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Pam says:
9/25/2012

Update on my experience:

I did finally speak with Tracy from Venus Concept. She said that while 10% of people who try Venus Freeze are “non-responders”, she has never heard of someone who looks worse after. (I guess I am the only person in the universe then!!) She said she would speak to the director of the spa I went to and keep me posted, but I haven’t heard back.

In the meantime, I went to the spa myself and spoke with one of the women there (the director was out of town). We looked at the photos that were taken after my 7 sessions (June 2012) and compared to my arms now. We both agreed that my arms are now more wrinkled, with loose, saggy skin. She thinks my arm circumference looks smaller. I do believe there was fat loss without any skin tightening. They offered me a thermage treatment free of charge. But since it is also radio frequency based, I fear it could make matters worse. Then they said I could have an ultherapy treatment free instead. I guess ultherapy works with ultrasound instead of radio frequency.

I am not sure whether or not to proceed on the ultherapy. Have read a few stories of women experiencing significant bruising afterwards. I have an appointment today with a doctor who is affiliated with the spa. (He does not work on-site or oversee any of the procedures.) I am curious to find out what he has to say.

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Thanks for keeping us updated, Pam. Please let us know how this works out for you. I know other women who are considering this procedure are eager to hear your results.

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Pam says:
4/21/2013

Well…I did do the ultherapy. It was in November I believe. The woman performing it said it would probably help more with the “batwing” area than the wrinkly upper arm skin but I went for it anyway. It was INCREDIBLY painful, even with a valium and a vicodin. That said, I was able to go home after and work in my garden, no problem.

They said it would take 2-3 months to see the results. And sadly, there has been no difference at all. I haven’t gone back to the spa to compare to the photos taken. But I still cannot wear a tank top or even short sleeves comfortably. So disappointing!!!

FYI, I am in my early 50s, have fair skin with some freckles. I did spend a fair amount of time in the sun when I was younger, which of course I regret. That said, most people think I am way younger than I am. (I keep my wrinkly arms covered up.)

I wish I could say I’ve seen results from the treatments I received at Pearl Med Spa. But honestly, it all seems like money down the drain. (I also did fraxel once and IPL 4-5 times, all on my chest. Don’t see much difference.)

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Roxann says:
12/24/2012

Groupon has a great deal right now in CT. I purchased 8 treatments for $350. I plan on having up upper thighs done.

Just a note…I had Ultherapy 3 months ago on my lower face and under my chin. The results are just what I was hoping for! Hopefully, I will have success with the Venus Freeze.

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Thanks for the info, Roxann. Please let us know how it goes. It doesn’t seem to have a good track record with cellulite so far…

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BCON says:
1/31/2013

Wow, wish I had found this site earlier. My husband saw a wagjag coupon advertising 6 treatments for $184. I said I’d live to try it on my things to get rid of the cellulite, so he bought them. I have yet to arrange an appointment but after viewing the spas website http://www.skinvitality.ca/mississauga/venus-freeze-mississauga.php
I think I’ll just go with getting my face done as from my take on their web site it really isn’t about cellulite reduction but about tightening, toning, smoothing and firming the skin.

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Berta says:
4/21/2013

Pam if they are offering you Ultherapy for free TAKE IT! It works great! I had it at a place called Skinpossible in Calgary and am very happy with the results.

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CatMom says:
6/6/2013

If I had only known that glycolic acid cures cellulite!! After looking for several glyolic masks to try on my cellulite, I finally chose the Lady Soma Antioxidant Berry Mask. The product is suppose to be used for the face, but I have been putting the masque on my cellulite.

Lady Soma is AWESOME!!! Within a week or two, I noticed results. After four weeks, there was a complete difference. I’m not saying all the cellulite was gone, but probably about 97% is gone. I went to the beach for the first time in 3 years a few weeks ago, and had no anxiety or shame about running around in my little bikini with my 5 year-old. It was the greatest feeling ever!

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Terri McGhee says:
7/25/2013

Hello,
I am 52 years old and wanted to add my comments about Venus Freeze combined with Clear Lift Pizel for my face and neck.
I have done 3 sessions of Pizel and 2 of Venus Freeze. My face is totally transformed.
My jowls are almost gone Andy jawline is finally defined.
I am not affiliated with any Spa I am just a client. I will say that I am so happy with my results. People say I look 35.
Ageing for me has been difficult because I grew up as a Professional Model for Christian Dior and always felt I needed to look perfect in front of the camera. I no longer shy away from the camera in my 50’s and I am a happy camper.
I would post a before and after photo but not sure how to post it.
I would highly recommend the two procedures that I am doing together.

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Wright says:
10/4/2013

signed up for 10 treatments!

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Wright says:
10/4/2013

I should be more specific. I’m in NYC, signed up for 10 venus freeze treatments on my butt and thighs. took before pics and will give a review in a few weeks.

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Stuffoflife says:
3/12/2014

I’ve done venus freeze on my neck, face, “bleg” (lower part of the butt/upper leg) and tummy.
I have to say that the neck and face procedure was totally transformational and worth every penny. My sister had the same results. We are both over 40. Tons of wrinkle reduction, lift in the neck, I swear I lost 20 years on my face, and my sister did as well.

I did lose some inches and noticed tightening in my body treatments, but the place that I believe is definitely worth it … is the face and neck!

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