Comments on: This is What Fluoroderma Looks Like http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html Natural Remedies to Reduce Cellulite, from Dry Skin Brushing and Coffee to Anti Cellulite Diets Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:41:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Melissa, Lead Cellulite Investigator http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-6559 Melissa, Lead Cellulite Investigator Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:21:36 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-6559 Good point, thinx. I just returned from a trip to France last night and I had to be careful to avoid table salt while I was there. I also noticed some of the bottled water contained fluoride (although it wasn't common). Good point, thinx. I just returned from a trip to France last night and I had to be careful to avoid table salt while I was there. I also noticed some of the bottled water contained fluoride (although it wasn’t common).

]]> By: thinx2damnmuch http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-6405 thinx2damnmuch Wed, 14 Sep 2011 03:27:46 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-6405 Another fluoride find: many countries add it to salt. http://www.gaia-health.com/articles51/000081-Fluoridated-Salt.shtml Check out the graph in the middle of the page showing fluoride falling in between LEAD and ARSENIC in toxicity! Then the comment: "The chart on the right is an easy-to-see representation of the relative toxicity of lead, fluoride, and arsenic. In light of this, it's incomprehensible that the EPA justifies these allowances in public water supplies: Arsenic: 10 ppb Lead: 15 ppb Fluoride: 4000 ppb Fluoride is a chemical that is known to be more toxic than lead. The maximum amount of lead allowed in drinking water in the US is 15 parts per billion, and there are concerns that even that amount may be too high. Yet, the US actually adds fluoride to drinking water." It's just crazy. Another fluoride find: many countries add it to salt.

http://www.gaia-health.com/articles51/000081-Fluoridated-Salt.shtml

Check out the graph in the middle of the page showing fluoride falling in between LEAD and ARSENIC in toxicity! Then the comment:

“The chart on the right is an easy-to-see representation of the relative toxicity of lead, fluoride, and arsenic. In light of this, it’s incomprehensible that the EPA justifies these allowances in public water supplies:
Arsenic: 10 ppb
Lead: 15 ppb
Fluoride: 4000 ppb
Fluoride is a chemical that is known to be more toxic than lead. The maximum amount of lead allowed in drinking water in the US is 15 parts per billion, and there are concerns that even that amount may be too high. Yet, the US actually adds fluoride to drinking water.”

It’s just crazy.

]]> By: Melissa, Lead Cellulite Investigator http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-5812 Melissa, Lead Cellulite Investigator Sat, 27 Aug 2011 12:59:04 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-5812 Wow! Great detective work, thinx! I've never heard of this. Makes sense, though. Thanks for sharing. Wow! Great detective work, thinx! I’ve never heard of this. Makes sense, though. Thanks for sharing.

]]> By: thinx2damnmuch http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-5756 thinx2damnmuch Wed, 24 Aug 2011 05:37:26 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-5756 Hey I learned something today that might help everyone. I totally have the breakout pattern on my face from fluoride as this page shows. But sometimes I was getting similar breakouts when I knew I was being fluoride-free. But I'm also allergic to nickel (more women have this problem than men but such is life for the few guys like me.) I know to wear plastic sunglasses instead of metal frame, and similar other non-nickel techniques, but didn't realize that part of the metal faceplate border on my cellphone had nickel in it. Duh! Not sure how I missed that but I did. Hold it to my face for a phone call that's too long and guess what? Breakouts around my ear and cheek. Another piece of the puzzle solved! Hopefully you all don't have both disorders like me, but if so you can go get tested for nickel allergy from your dermatologist (or just a nickel plated watch for a few hours adn you'll probably find out soon enough.) BTW this page helped with scientific backing: http://dermatology.cdlib.org/1606/3_case_presentations/9_10-00190/rajpara.html Be strong everyone. Change the world and their stupid use of chemicals. Hey I learned something today that might help everyone. I totally have the breakout pattern on my face from fluoride as this page shows. But sometimes I was getting similar breakouts when I knew I was being fluoride-free. But I’m also allergic to nickel (more women have this problem than men but such is life for the few guys like me.) I know to wear plastic sunglasses instead of metal frame, and similar other non-nickel techniques, but didn’t realize that part of the metal faceplate border on my cellphone had nickel in it. Duh! Not sure how I missed that but I did. Hold it to my face for a phone call that’s too long and guess what? Breakouts around my ear and cheek. Another piece of the puzzle solved! Hopefully you all don’t have both disorders like me, but if so you can go get tested for nickel allergy from your dermatologist (or just a nickel plated watch for a few hours adn you’ll probably find out soon enough.)

BTW this page helped with scientific backing:
http://dermatology.cdlib.org/1606/3_case_presentations/9_10-00190/rajpara.html

Be strong everyone. Change the world and their stupid use of chemicals.

]]> By: Melissa, Lead Cellulite Investigator http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-4960 Melissa, Lead Cellulite Investigator Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:54:59 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-4960 Very interesting, Rebecca! If you don't mind being a bit more graphic, what type of breakouts did you use the iodine on? When I get a fluoroderma breakout, it is a deep welt that I can feel under the skin several days before it comes to the surface. Were you able to try it on something like that? In any case, thanks for the tip! Very interesting, Rebecca! If you don’t mind being a bit more graphic, what type of breakouts did you use the iodine on? When I get a fluoroderma breakout, it is a deep welt that I can feel under the skin several days before it comes to the surface. Were you able to try it on something like that? In any case, thanks for the tip!

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-4952 Rebecca Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:13:47 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-4952 This is a nice discovery I have made in regards to treating this sort of acne, you can try as my daughter and I have using a tiny dab of tincture of iodine on each zit. My own theory is I believe a tiny bit applied to the surface of the zit, the iodine tincture 2% (the small bottle or antiseptic you find next to band-aids at the drug store) displaces the bromide or fluoride acne that is in the skin and drys the zit out completely in a day or two with no excessive drying and peeling. Heals right up! The reson I tried this is because I was trying to test my skin to see if I was iodine deficient, so I had the bottle on my nightstand and I just thought to myself I wonder if this will heal my acne. It did! I am planning to iodine load testing very soon too! Thanks for the information on that. This is a nice discovery I have made in regards to treating this sort of acne, you can try as my daughter and I have using a tiny dab of tincture of iodine on each zit. My own theory is I believe a tiny bit applied to the surface of the zit, the iodine tincture 2% (the small bottle or antiseptic you find next to band-aids at the drug store) displaces the bromide or fluoride acne that is in the skin and drys the zit out completely in a day or two with no excessive drying and peeling. Heals right up! The reson I tried this is because I was trying to test my skin to see if I was iodine deficient, so I had the bottle on my nightstand and I just thought to myself I wonder if this will heal my acne. It did! I am planning to iodine load testing very soon too! Thanks for the information on that.

]]> By: Melissa, Expert Cellulite Investigator http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-3626 Melissa, Expert Cellulite Investigator Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:53:16 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-3626 My fluoroderma breakouts used to take about two weeks to heal. Whenever I had a another bout, I knew my skin would be a mess for the next two weeks. It seemed like the initial round was always followed by a second round of breakouts a bit further down the lymphatic pathway. They weren't as bad, but still not pretty. I find I am okay eating white chicken breast, especially if it is free-range organic. Even if I order a dish with chicken breast at a decent restaurant (meaning it's not organic), my skin doesn't breakout. I didn't venture to try this though until my skin was well on the path to being healed. I make an effort to avoid any fatty parts (including dark meat) and skin. Ground chicken and of course chicken soup are the worst! My fluoroderma breakouts used to take about two weeks to heal. Whenever I had a another bout, I knew my skin would be a mess for the next two weeks. It seemed like the initial round was always followed by a second round of breakouts a bit further down the lymphatic pathway. They weren’t as bad, but still not pretty.

I find I am okay eating white chicken breast, especially if it is free-range organic. Even if I order a dish with chicken breast at a decent restaurant (meaning it’s not organic), my skin doesn’t breakout. I didn’t venture to try this though until my skin was well on the path to being healed. I make an effort to avoid any fatty parts (including dark meat) and skin. Ground chicken and of course chicken soup are the worst!

]]> By: Melissa, Expert Cellulite Investigator http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-3625 Melissa, Expert Cellulite Investigator Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:45:53 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-3625 It struck me as hilarious when I read the word "frump" in your description. Thanks for that! I think you are going to like this fluoroderma guide that I am putting together. It's almost done (just one short chapter left) and then I will try to remember to send you an advanced copy. Once I am satisfied it is ready, it will also be available here on the site, too. It includes a chapter on diagnosing fluoroderma. Basically, it is extremely difficult to get a doctor here in the U.S. to perform a test that will help diagnose fluoroderma. One CI reader told me her "detox" spa diagnosed her husband's fluoroderma with a blood test, but that is the only account I've heard of it. There is a blood test they've used in India where fluoride poisoning is rampant, but from what I've read it is very expensive and uncommon in the U.S. Fortunately, you don't need to prove to your doc that you have fluoroderma in order to heal it. Still, I understand it would be satisfying to have that kind of approval, or to be able to work with your doctor to heal the condition (imagine that!). Once this last chapter is finished, I am going to put together a Fluoroderma Fact Sheet designed for potential fluoroderma sufferers to present to their medical professional. It will include some key facts surrounding fluoride and it's effect on the skin, each with a reference to a study published in a respected peer-reviewed journal. It will be our job to start educating the healthcare community on this condition. Hopefully, eventually, they will start taking it seriously. I'm so encouraged by your comment. Makes it worth it to be spending all my free time on this book. I am so excited to get it out there. I suspect there are many people like us who have fluoroderma and don't even know it. It struck me as hilarious when I read the word “frump” in your description. Thanks for that!

I think you are going to like this fluoroderma guide that I am putting together. It’s almost done (just one short chapter left) and then I will try to remember to send you an advanced copy. Once I am satisfied it is ready, it will also be available here on the site, too. It includes a chapter on diagnosing fluoroderma. Basically, it is extremely difficult to get a doctor here in the U.S. to perform a test that will help diagnose fluoroderma. One CI reader told me her “detox” spa diagnosed her husband’s fluoroderma with a blood test, but that is the only account I’ve heard of it. There is a blood test they’ve used in India where fluoride poisoning is rampant, but from what I’ve read it is very expensive and uncommon in the U.S.

Fortunately, you don’t need to prove to your doc that you have fluoroderma in order to heal it. Still, I understand it would be satisfying to have that kind of approval, or to be able to work with your doctor to heal the condition (imagine that!). Once this last chapter is finished, I am going to put together a Fluoroderma Fact Sheet designed for potential fluoroderma sufferers to present to their medical professional. It will include some key facts surrounding fluoride and it’s effect on the skin, each with a reference to a study published in a respected peer-reviewed journal. It will be our job to start educating the healthcare community on this condition. Hopefully, eventually, they will start taking it seriously.

I’m so encouraged by your comment. Makes it worth it to be spending all my free time on this book. I am so excited to get it out there. I suspect there are many people like us who have fluoroderma and don’t even know it.

]]> By: thinx2damnmuch http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-3622 thinx2damnmuch Thu, 07 Apr 2011 04:25:31 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-3622 Matt, this is EXACTLY what mine are like too. "Inflamed mass" is a very good way of putting it. Sometimes it's like the cells in that inflamed mass have all disconnected from each other and turned to cellular jelly, so to speak, so that once the mass it works its way to the surface, it's then this oozing open sore with no structure to it at all. It takes forever to scab over and fill back in. Sometimes it inflames again and again until, I imagine, it finally rids the area of the fluoride? Finally it takes days and days to eventually heal, and that's ONLY if I'm not eating anything with fluoride in it that whole time. So painful, embarrassing, etc. I miss eating chicken. Matt, this is EXACTLY what mine are like too. “Inflamed mass” is a very good way of putting it. Sometimes it’s like the cells in that inflamed mass have all disconnected from each other and turned to cellular jelly, so to speak, so that once the mass it works its way to the surface, it’s then this oozing open sore with no structure to it at all. It takes forever to scab over and fill back in. Sometimes it inflames again and again until, I imagine, it finally rids the area of the fluoride? Finally it takes days and days to eventually heal, and that’s ONLY if I’m not eating anything with fluoride in it that whole time. So painful, embarrassing, etc. I miss eating chicken.

]]> By: thinx2damnmuch http://www.celluliteinvestigation.com/2009/11/this-is-what-fluoroderma-looks-like.html#comment-3621 thinx2damnmuch Thu, 07 Apr 2011 04:14:54 +0000 http://74.54.216.62/~cellul10/?p=209#comment-3621 My dr now, and nearly every dr I can think of that I've had, is a frump and an idiot. Is it just me here or do you all go see the dr and find out that you know more about different topics than they do?? When I see the guy bust out google on his little laptop during our discussion, I get mad. I DID that part already! Anyway...I can't get these guys to take me seriously on this, even though I print this out and bring it, and show them my skin, and tell them which foods make me break out exactly like this. I want to get some special testing or whatever you got medically. How do I get officially tested for Fluoroderma, and officially diagnosed so I have something to prove it? Thank you for the amazing amazing work here. THIS SITE HELPED ME! My dr now, and nearly every dr I can think of that I’ve had, is a frump and an idiot. Is it just me here or do you all go see the dr and find out that you know more about different topics than they do?? When I see the guy bust out google on his little laptop during our discussion, I get mad. I DID that part already! Anyway…I can’t get these guys to take me seriously on this, even though I print this out and bring it, and show them my skin, and tell them which foods make me break out exactly like this. I want to get some special testing or whatever you got medically. How do I get officially tested for Fluoroderma, and officially diagnosed so I have something to prove it? Thank you for the amazing amazing work here. THIS SITE HELPED ME!

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